Both at different times. Mostly gush though.
And @Azi I wish!! But this has been a 25 year battle 
Ferocious Fix February - Carnivore Challenge (Fit it In - Fit in It! ) Feb 2022
Ketodaisy
(Daisy)
#121
robintemplin
(Robin)
#125
Exactly what I do. I swear I get a good level workout every time I get up in the night. Hard to try to stay almost asleep when it’s such a game of effort and concentration!
JJFiddle
(Judy Thompson)
#126
Today we went shopping in town and ate out, I had the 12 oz rib eye again and finished the last of it, heated in cast iron with tallow, when we got home. Tonight I had dried cheese, that crunchy stuff in a bag-Moon cheese.
I think one of the best things so far on day 25 is that other foods don’t look or smell good to me. I made cinnamon rolls with frosting - the ones in the exploding can - and had no desire whatever to eat any. (the fast food at the country bar smelled so bad the other night I nearly had to leave.) That’s a great nsv to me. I tried on Mom’s red jacket and it fits the same, but it’s only the 5th of the month!
@Naghite I stop in that section in the grocery store meat dept and look at all the organ meats, pigs feet, tongue, brains… One day I’ll get some. For now just chicken feet and necks to try to add gel to my next batch of broth. And liver.
Karen18
(Karen)
#127
Absolutely, sometimes I lay still for a good hour or more doing just that and in the end get up and go, thinking I could have done that straight away and got back to sleep! Sometimes I wonder about myself! 
Karen18
(Karen)
#128
Woohoo! Had a pretty good sleep last night. Dropped off about 10.15pm and woke at 11.15, 4.30, 6.30 and 7.45am toilet trips each time but straight back to sleep again! Actually felt rested this morning. Dont think I did anything differently yesterday to enable such a good night … I don’t know! Had some strange crazy dreams but I always have strange crazy dreams so thats nothing new. My daughter messaged me before I went to bed and asked me to wrack my brains over some metaphors and similies … lordy she actually believed I knew what they were hahaha so after googling what I was meant to be wracking my little brain about I got putting pen to paper. I couldn’t believe she was putting stuff in my head before bed 
knowing my head gets too busy to sleep. Anyway I put pen to paper then text her what i had come up with but I reckon had I not done that straight away my mind would have been all over the place when I got to bed and that great sleep just wouldn’t have happened.
I had a small bit of stilton and some ham early evening just to finish the ham off as it had been in freezer and it was okay. A little bit salty but that was fine as i don’t add any salt to anything now.
We had a right storm last night. The winds were very gusty and it was raining before I went to bed. Through the night the rain came down in torrents and on one loo trip I could hear the rain gushing into the front porch where the gutter needs fixing. A job I was going to do when I borrowed next doors ladder after my blip and painted the apex of my extension… much to the horror of my daughter… cant think why lol 
well I think I need to get on with sealing that flippin hole, my door mat will be wringing wet. So I half expected to see my palm toppled over or broken but when I peered out the window this morning all was looking pretty dandy and now the sun is trying to pop out and everything looks refreshed. Its amazing what these plants can put up with but I do think the fact I put the palm in a heavy terracotta pot was a good idea. We are due more gusty weather and lots more rain today 
I was very loose with my pennies yesterday … I watched QVC and ended up ordering conveyor belt full of stuff for the garden … then had to stop myself watching any more otherwise I would have carried on spending!!! Some things were advanced orders so the pennies don’t all come out of the bank at once. I will look forward to that arriving over next 3 months. Having got the 2 lovely pink passion cordylines from QVC I know I won’t be disappointed with any of it. I either procrastinate forever over buying stuff or I just buy on impulse! I am a strange one I think. Anyway I am not making so many trips to The Company Shop and buying lots of meat at the mo because I am truly honestly working through what I already have in the freezer… what a good girl I am! I have a good sized pork shoulder roast to cook today. It has been defrosting in the fridge a couple of days now so I will stop rambling on and get on with it. Looking forward to eating it later.
Naghite
(Michael)
#129
Sheep brain. I get the brain, tongue, eyes and cheeks all for only 6 bucks from one place. My wife went and they automatically cut it all up and gave it to her for me when she went to grab the testicles and ox tail. They did not even ask, they know me too well.
Fangs
#131
and this is our biggest perk. We never want. IF we hold plan 
Key being on other plans, and this could be JUST me, I always craved when I ‘ate it all’ ya know but off carbs totally, as in zc only, I thrive. Loved reading this!
those pennies were long hard earned, darn right spend some on you to make your life full and happy now not a darn thing ever wrong with that. Happy you are happy K!
-------------so for me I had a dream. I don’t dream literally OR well, remember them ever but I dreamed bacon and chicken wings LOL At restaurant with hubby fretting over menu of course and I ordered biggest amt of wings and then bacon freaked me out…like 3 strips for $10 and I NEED definitely like 20 strips and I was calculating the price and said to hubby I WANNA EAT AT HOME and that was it…yea my life in an nutshell HAHA
Pee. I got up ALL the darn time early in zc and extreme lc and had to pee all the damn time but it went away. I get 5-6 and 7 if lucky straight sleep. No more up to pee. I wonder if this is a changeover alot of us deal as we heal OR it can be a ‘pee thing’ that many just deal with in a more medical issue? Not sure on that but now…when I sleep I sleep…but the pee demand to wake is gone for me luckily. More time on plan to heal or ??? Interesting issue on the pee wake up LOL
Not sure where I am going with this chat but hmm, ??
I did a diff. cook yesterday. Got a fat fat sirloin steak. Did high temp fast sear both sides and put in oven at high temp for 10…well damn I got busy with other’s foods and forgot mine and got it out in 20…just over cooked. Way too well done…so next time it will be 10 with an eagle eye for me to keep it very rare like I want…but darn, tender as all get out so if I do it right next time…more yum to come and of course family jumped on my damn steak too…lucky I got mine…eeekk
today is steak and burger
but my mind is thinking wings, pork chops, seafood…but holding beef water for a bit more til I cave and eat bacon and wings and pork 
which is ALL ZC of course but enjoying this challenge for myself.
Karen18
(Karen)
#132
Hahaha love that crazy dream … especially as it is so pertinent to how you are eating this month. I reckon you are so going to nom nom those wings and bacon when and if you decide to come off the lion diet! 
And yes you are right I can treat myself now and again but why do I feel so guilty about doing it … perhaps its because I spent so many years on the (sorry dirty word alert) b***d line !
Well pork pork and more pork today. Cooked up the pork shoulder roast and while i was cooking it I finished off the remaining 2 pork shoulder chops and a bit of stilton.
The roast, I misread and cooked it on wrong heat 160 instead of fan assisted 140 arghh I wouldn’t mind but in my head I was thinking I’m sure it should be 140° anyway fortunately not too over cooked and still fairly tender. The crackling is amazing and i have already eaten half of it, so crispy crunchy and a good layer of moist fat under the outer crunchiness yummy.
Second plate … only side plates but big enough.
The miserable day we have here doesn’t really show how the bamboo in the garden 2 doors down and my palm are being swept about by the gusty wind! Only half 3 and looking very dark but I am trying to avoid putting lights on. I have a candle on instead… gas and electric going up by just under £700 a year! And I mentioned spending all my pennies on my garden… well I am off setting that by using candles lol
oh I mentioned in my last post i don’t add any salt now which is true 99.9% of the time but of course I can’t make the pork skin crackle and tasty without coating it in salt. This time though the salt seemed to go into thin layers of salt that dropped off at the end of the cooking time when I touched it so I didn’t eat the amount I covered it in!. Wow sun has just come through the grey sky and is blinding me now!!! Hahha where did that come from lol.
Shinita
#133
Hi people! You do good, let’s not talk about me. I still can’t reach half a pound meat, ew. So I just don’t do carnivore but it’s definitely quite low-carb and I don’t stay hungry. I just will get bored of the few things I manage to eat but don’t really want.
The rabbit stew is lovely but it doesn’t mean I want more than a few bites. Of course I eat many yolks a day, I would be lost without them. And my current sausage is nice but it’s a dense one, not a super dry one but I only eat a bite per meal. Still, it helps something. And I opened another package of cream… Even that isn’t something I am able to eat more than tiny amounts but if I eat a bit from everything, it helps.
I have quark, not opened yet, I don’t want it yet but it probably will help.
Even my PSMF bread (carnivore version) and salmon spread can’t interest me much but they help a bit too…
My pork is actually nice, I just stop after 75g or something and don’t want more.
Inconvenient.
Fortunately I am not so hungry today and Alvaro’s lunch triggered an earlier meal so I will be okay with some half-grazing, half-TMAD style (2 bigger meals with extra bites).
But we walked and found flowers in the wildlife park!!!
Alvaro didn’t bring the objective that is needed for flower photography if you ask me so the tiiiiny snowdrop was tiny in the pic but they turned out nice enough. He did the shots, I am not willing to do it without my fav 100mm objective that blurs the background so nicely and allows me to have only a 2cm object in my pic… I am excited as flower (and other small natural things) photography is my favorite. I am best at that I am sure but my passion is best there anyway… And flowers in February? Wonderful! Spring is so near, yay!
Hellebore, snowdrop and no idea what the thing I am holding (to be visible in the photo, it pointed to the floor) is… I go in a few days to catch the flowers in bloom, only 1-2 snowdrops were kind of blooming, nothing else.
Karen18
(Karen)
#134
Isn’t nature wonderful. My daughter and I love walking when the flowers and hedgerows are starting to bud and some leaves are starting to grow back in the trees. My bulbs are poking through the soil in the containers now and i have noticed a few buds on some of the plants and the bee bombs are shooting up. I look at them most days to see another one poking through and I gave to admit I do get excited at their growth which may be due to this being my first attempt at gardening from scratch.
looking forward to seeing some pics in a week or so to see how the snowdrops are blooming x
Shinita
#135
My outside hyacinths are out, they are tiny but pretty green. My tulips aren’t that early but I will check what my garden actually does…
Did I say my inside hyacinth started to bloom and it has a nice fragrance now? I will shot it in a few days.
And tomorrow I will go and check the pasquaflowers. Unless we get rain. We might and everything is so very muddy already 
Sometimes I meet those things where one is asked if they would do something restrictive for a lot of money. Last time it was being in an empty windowless padded(? soft walls) room without books, phone, internet, anything. A TON of money and one year.
I would go mad without natural light in weeks at most! 
(Maybe not mad, my sanity, in its not complete little way is extremely resilient though I haven’t challenged it very much yet. But I would wanna die very soon or something.) No NATURE? Yes, I am annoyed without internet for a day, sometimes for an hour (unless it’s planned, it’s cool then, I have 2.5 internet-less days every year when I visit my aunt and it’s perfectly fine) but Nature, natural light, plants and animals are even way more important. I could think about things with my built-in mind so no book is tolerable for longer but NO NATURE… Nope. Not for all the money in the world.
I am a free spirit anyway, kind of. I totally restrict myself in various ways as probably all human do but I hate not going out and make my decisions.
It’s totally exciting 40+ years after first gardening too And it isn’t just for spring for me at all. I am excited about my plants all year, it diminishes in winter when I don’t do anything to them and they aren’t active but I still think about them here and there just not as much.
But it’s strongest in spring And when one does something new, be it first gardening or first Kamchatka honeysuckle (that was a few years ago for me. the thing is still so tiny… and it’s not tasty but pretty and I have it, how cool is that? I am a hoarder, erm, collector of different edible plants), that adds some extra punch to it too. But it’s very strong in spring anyway. Which of my new plants will do something interesting? Which of my not new but young fruit trees will grace us with their fruits? Will everyone come out or some trees died? How many of my zillion daffodils will bloom and where? This last isn’t so exciting as I have so extremely many that I always end up very many flowers but they are at different locations and one of them barely had flowers last year.
Oh and my tulips! Some are different from others and I just forget the details from year to year so it’s interesting to see what I have. And my black tulips came back somehow last year and it’s exciting to think about if I still have some… And so on, and so forth. I have plenty of very beautiful plants.
And I want more. There are strawberries with bright pink flowers. I want those. I have very many strawberries, it’s a chore to pick them at their peak (?) so I definitely don’t need more but I do want pink flowered ones. Mine are different types but all have normal white flowers.
I hope my… What, they are called mock oranges…? Why? Whatever, that. I hope it will be bloom properly, last year it had 2 flowers, I don’t know why. Maybe the blood hazelnut was too much for poor thing, when I planted them next to each other (as I have space problems), it seemed okay but the hazelnut decided it will grow huge. The sunlight situation is already not great here, to put it lightly but I can’t do much about it for most of my garden. But the plant was pretty 2 years ago so maybe it was a bad year… and the hazelnut I will cut back a bit.
I wonder what my young apricot will do. It actually died last year, it was originally a lovely tiny apricot tree… It suddenly withered so I cut it out but it grew from the root so I have some less noble apricot bush-like thing now. I don’t mind, I don’t want to buy another tree this year so it can live there I have plenty of theoretically edible plants and some fruit trees in my garden for something else. My garden stairs (the steep ones. I have stairs all along due to the pretty big elevation) would look so bare without the old and not good plum trees next to them. One even died but we feed the chickadees from that tree and anyway, I need it for the look… I can’t plant another one there easily as that area is full with raspberry plants… So I keep the old dead one until I can. I eventually need some other tree there, somehow. If a few raspberries die, so be it, I need a tree there. It already looks off without foliage in not-winter.
It’s already spring in my mind
Azi
(Linda )
#136
Started today with 2 flanken ribs and a small slice of picanha 2nd meal will be a lamb hock
So im still doing a fattier meal and a leaner one…I just love that they don’t trim picanha to death…
I have noticed that since tightening things up I don’t go to the bathroom as often only every three or four days…so something has changed but I’m not eating as much as in nebraska and I’m sticking to Dr berry’s 4 hour eating window when I’m home and not out and about doing things. Otherwise I eat when I remember or get home…
And no snacking or adding things in even if its egg pudding im just not needing any extras…weight wise I’m at almost 5lbs down but it fluctuates daily so im not calling it yet… certainly not dropping off fast but if it’s moving in the tight direction I’ll take it…
Ketodaisy
(Daisy)
#137
Thought today would be an omad. I had some raw beef, crispy fried beef roast, and half of a large 2” ribeye around noon. Got stuffed halfway through the ribeye. But at 7:30 this evening, I was hungry again, so I had a little chunk of suet and the rest of the ribeye.
JJFiddle
(Judy Thompson)
#138
@Karen18 that crackling looks amazing!
Today was music performance day - church and then the country bar to play. I made more of those cinnamon rolls to take, washed my hands a lot to keep it off me. It’s a good choice as it’s easy and they love it. They brought a Mexican main dish, wraps with sausage but covered with a pepper mix. So, no.
I have been bringing a little snack, eggs or meat, to get through the gig at the country bar after church but today I didn’t and you know what, it didn’t matter. Our first and only meal was around 4 when we got home. Chicken I sous vided lastnight and chicken livers for me.
The puppy has become my best friend at meals. Meat is our friend and she knows it! 
Tomorrow I’ll be taking a chuck roast out of the sous vide, and eating that plus chicken and the rest of the livers. A veritable feast!
FrankoBear
#139
Billie is a carnivore. 20 months old. Does not know what kibble/ dry dog food is. (digital painting)
JJFiddle
(Judy Thompson)
#140
How beautiful Billie is! Mimsy has been on raw food, dehydrated meats and organs, with some bought treats, for most of her 5+ years. I make everything now.
@Fangs I’ve been thinking about “I WANT TO EAT AT HOME!” for hours now, and how many places that were barely passable on keto are now useless on Carni. I won’t say, oh well, just this once, and go ahead and eat a sauce or a wrap I’d never even look at, at home.
I guess sometimes eating out is just a place to sit socially and drink a mineral water and wait till later to eat. At least hubby gets it and makes an effort. I think next week he wants to try Billy Bob’s Steak House and see if we can get me an aceptable meal. A double cheeseburger, no bun or toppings, would probably do.
How do you guys do with travel?
This is an insomnia night but I ate some cold chicken in the dark so hopefully the hunger will pass and I’ll get some rest soon! It’s 1:41, but I can sleep in.