The former. Except in the very first days of carnivore when I get nausea, I never had problems with much fat. I had a day over 300g fat lately and it was fine as always… But my energy need is small. I shouldn’t even eat 150g fat regularly… 
And that’s so minimal… I LOVE fat.
I have my tastes, most of my favs are 65-70% fat but I have some other items so I can change my fat percentage. But my fat intake is the important thing… If I eat once, I am okay even with a bit more fat. But if I eat twice or more… I just can’t eat lean enough to avoid eating too much.
And while eating lean is hard for me (I mean 60% fat or something… I have my limits. I needed extremely much specially chosen carbs to bring my fat below 50% a few times in my life. as far as I know as I rarely tracked my carby days. of course it still was very much fat, way above my normal fat intake now just not in percentage).
Even after I slim down (if I ever), I should minimize my fat intake as I dislike overeating, it’s wasteful and not healthy even though I can’t gain fat or just super slowly, no matter my woe.
I still wonder what would happen to my satiaty on low-fat carni… I am simply unable to try it. It’s hard enough to find leaner food I am willing to eat but with much effort I can do that for a little while. But then evening comes and I MISS fat. It’s not hunger, it’s clearly craving fat. I have the same with eggs and don’t have it with meat. I still could go without meat for decades I am sure if I could replace it with something similar nutritionally. But I can’t. It’s fine, I like meat but I don’t crave it ever. I probably would miss it if I did a vegetarian month though 
Since I started carnivore, I only had very short periods without meat and it only happened rarely as I usually just skip my normal meat and keep my tiny processed meat when I get bored of meat.
But I start to get really curious… I seem to stop eating protein between 200-250g and crave fat instead but what if I still don’t eat fat, what happens to my satiation? I guess I would starve due to well, starvation, too few calories if I kept my fat truly low. But I may try out lowish-fat with unlimited protein…
I work on eating leaner so maybe my time will come. My sponge cakes have twice as many whites than yolks now and I can enjoy pure egg white ones too… I had lean fish multiple times lately as well and some low-fat dairy is edible too. I will do experiments 
Obviously. I avoided both for decades, there are so so many other options to eat, after all… I was a vegetarian (and then almost that as I had meat a few times a year, never at home) who disliked salads and green leaves They didn’t harm me, I just feel green leaves grass-like.
Anyway, a salad (unless it’s some abnormal one with lots of protein and fat) isn’t a meal while meat can be. For us it totally can be. My SO couldn’t eat a low-fat meal unless it’s a dessert (and too fatty desserts are exceptions). I eat meat with eggs myself but I could eat it alone. Not my rich stew, though 
Apropos stew. I ate this today, among others (I had more eggs, not surprisingly from me):
It seems a bit too much eggs but there are more stew underneath. It still was too much so there are leftover eggs I will eat with my leftover stew tomorrow. But I needed these not very fatty egg things with my very fatty and flavorful stew.
It was a 2MAD day but my eating window was 1.5 hour (this far?) It’s good. Yesterday was worse, I kept nibbling. I just couldn’t eat much at once but my satiation can’t accept 1-2 small meals. It was fine as I still avoided overeating. Beef is my super satiating item
AND! After such a long time! Alvaro came and informed me about the beef farm having beef again. I thought we are poor for that But well, we actually buy beef occasionally and as prices did their weird things, the beef in supermarkets isn’t any less expensive than the awesome farm beef. AND!!! They have organs and brisket now, it’s great, they often just had normal cuts before! And it’s not some fancy young calf or Hungarian grey so it’s the cheaper kind but still so nice from properly kept cattle… The organ is even cheap I want to try spleen and heart and liver, I ate liver once before and I liked it and the other two can’t be bad either. We buy brisket and some lower leg. If we already go all the way there (gas isn’t cheap either), we buy a decent amount of beef (not much but we don’t eat much beef), I have lots of space in the freezer now.
Yay. You guys talk SO MUCH about brisket, I am super curious since ages!
And well, the snow with unusually huge snowflakes. I got enthusiastic and made zillion photos, I just can’t show fewer than this
The great tits just kept eating…
Not pretty. Now, everything is normal. The last couple of days I’ve had so much energy it was almost detrimental. It’s hard to think clearly when your brain is going 125 mph. I was also pretty annoying with my non-stop diarrhea (pardon the pun) of the mouth. I just couldn’t shut up. Still trying to get my sleeping pattern in order, but I know that will come with time. My cat eats at 5 in the morning, and before I would just go back to bed. Now, I’m wide awake and feel like I’ve already had my coffee. That is truly weird. For the last two nights I have had zero joint pain which is incredible. I was taking ibuprofen every night for hip pain, shoulder pain, and I felt like I was getting carpal tunnel syndrome. I am super happy about that. Thank you again, everyone, and I am very excited to see the changes that I’m sure are coming!
Yeah, 5 days. I’m 54, and have done keto on and off for a few years. I always adapted quickly, and I think that’s just my physiology. I naturally gravitate toward meat, take after my dad’s side, and my sister is the same way. My mom has real problems with keto and is struggling with carnivore, but she’s not a big meat eater, doesn’t eat red meat at all. I do think I react very negatively to plants. I believe you re the fresh meats and seafood. My cat now runs into the kitchen when he hears pans clanking cuz he knows he’s getting good stuff! Trying to get him off the SAD cat diet too. Thanks!
