If you get off sweeteners of any sort 100%, try the mason jar ice cream recipe:
Jar with lid. 1/2 c heavy/whipping cream
1 egg yolk
1 t vanilla extract
shake for 3 minutes. Freeze for 3 hours.
Staying off sweeteners means the vanilla extract and cream will taste very sweet to you. three ingredients. If you forget it’s there for several more hours and want to eat it, thaw it in the fridge for an hour, or it’ll be a block of ice you can’t get a spoon into.
The recipe goes back to Atkins, RIP and thank you doc, thirty years or more.
My wife is the same way, not just artificial ones, but alternative sweeteners that are real like Stevia, Monkfruit, they all taste terrible to her, I’ve even snuck them in blind more times than I can count because I thought she was full of it…NOPE! Now when she wants something like ice cream she just gets the low/no sugar added ones, deals with it and burns it back off. She can portion herself correctly, I eat the whole pint and lick the cardboard clean.
Atkins is what started it all for me! 2007 and I lost 80lbs in 10wks… god that was fun. I lived on chicken wings, bacon and eggs, and every Atkins baked good you could make, remember Atkins bake mix? AWESOME! Belgium Waffles everyday!
I know what she means. A lot of sweetners leave this…cold taste in my mouth. I’m with her, I’d just rather deal with the repercussions of the real thing lol.
We actually have that stuff in our freezer right now, my hubs is doing keto with me and has a big sweet tooth. I am a bit dubious like others, and I find it way too sweet.
My frozen go-to: I grow mint and stevia. i take about a teaspoon of leaves of both and chop super fine. Add to half a cup of organic heavy cream and let the herbs sit and infuse flavor into the cream for a while (in the fridge). Whip. put in pastry bag (to be fancy) and squirt about 1/4 c of it at a time onto a plate or plastic bag, or just use a spoon and revel in the simplicity. Freeze, at which point you can just store the puffs in one bag. Very satisfying ‘tooth’, with the occasional little intense hit of mint or sweet. They do have a slightly greasy mouth feel, I find one is enough when I’m craving a dessert. ( I hold in a napkin, they will melt in your hand, not in your mouth, although the texture is a lot like a popsicle with that little squeak).
My ice cream is very similar, it’s whipped cream or mascarpone for me, more flavoring (lemon and Stroh80 rum too) and 12 yolks or more…
It’s pretty good for an egg maniac for me. My old ice cream had no dairy at all but I used banana. Still a very valid and quite tasty option when not on carnivore… But I never want ice cream on carnivore so it’s fine.
All super sweet sweetener tastes awful to me. Only the “less sweet than sugar” ones are fine. Well maltitol isn’t particularly sweet to me but not so bad tasting, it’s something (it’s a pointless stuff to me but I don’t hate it with the same passion as the super sweet ones). And yes, mixed with 1000 times as much xylitol (tasty to me) and used sparingly in something? The awfulness is still very, very, very strong. No way I don’t feel and hate it. Some of us are like this.
I only heard about that and maybe in the beginning I could somewhat understand it regarding erythritol…? It was quite fine but I felt… something? Now I don’t, erythritol is meh but sweet, no cold feeling at all. Xylitol always was my fav among sweeteners. If I use one, it’s usually that nowadays. Way tastier than erythritol and if the net carb difference matters, I use too much sweetener and carbs in general and should eat better
We don’t have those things here but I guess they are made for newbies or ketoers who eat super sweet things often…? So people whose sweetness perception and expectation is “normal”.
Sometimes I wonder if some keto sweets for people who changed exist. All my family member started to eat things way less sweet as before after giving up added sugar (or extremely reduced). They eat lots of natural sugar, even and it happened so quickly. Maybe it doesn’t happen to us all… But I heard the same from many people so it’s quite common.
I only find the chocolates sweetened by maltitol okay as I feel maltitol 1/5th as sweet as erythritol and that level is tolerable for me. I avoid maltitol but had to tried it once so now I know
Mint in ice cream? Why I never did that myself? I have mint plants!
Ya, that’s what I’m thinking as well, I like to give people benefit of the doubt that they’re not stupid enough to pretend they know more about me and what I’ve done than me (unless its on Reddit) but we’ll see I guess
This was the worst offender in the cold mouth feeling, followed by the next day shoulder aches and depression. It’s just weird to me how it targets my shoulders! And my mom has the same exact reaction in the shoulders. So stinkin bizarre!
Lose 80 pounds in 10 weeks.
Help Forum am l wrong?
PaulL
(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?)
#33
Eight pounds a week is plausible enough, even though it’s better not to lose that quickly. I imagine at first it was water weight, which can come off quickly. I’ve read that each glucose molecule we consume causes us to store four molecules of water, so our initial loss is more bloat than fat.
Overall, my keto fat loss was 80 lbs./36 kg over about seven months. There was one day, however, in which I shed 20 lbs./9.1 kg. I weighed myself in the morning, and by the afternoon my weight was 20 lbs. less. I remember posting an angry and confused thread on these forums, though I no longer remember why I was so upset. But it was a real loss, because the scale continued downwards from the new, lower weight.
Another time, I stepped on the scale one morning and weighed 30 lbs./13.6 kg more than I had the day before. My clothes weren’t any tighter, but the scale consistently registered the new, higher weight, and it took over 30 days for the scale to slowly return to the lower weight. I have no idea what happened, or how.
So you’re asking OTHER people now? What’s the matter? Your past looking crystal ball not working correctly? You want other’s to join in on accusing me of being a liar about what I did almost 20 years ago? Because I have something to gain from that right? I’ll make it easy for you genius, it’s called somebody in their 20’s with an RMR through the roof, a physical job that averages 12hrs a day and going to the gym and beating yourself into the ground both before and after work, does wonders!
I expect this childish nonsense on Reddit, not here.
Not the case here, but another way that could happen is if someone had a medical condition that required steroids and LC cured the medical condition, so they dumped the steroids. A 50 pound loss in a month would be totally possible in that situation.
Most people who have been overweight have been called liars by their doctors and others (when low-cal diets didn’t work, or ceased working because, duh, metabolic adaptation to hypocaloric diets). I have such anger and resentment about that kind of attitude from doctors that I never see doctors and I never tell other people I don’t believe them. If someone says “I can’t lose weight on keto,” I believe them too. Maybe they can’t! I’m not following them around, so how the heck would I know?
Assume that people are telling the truth, and question all the time the mainstream medical dogma about fat and weight loss. (also about … sort of everything, at least here in the US where medicine is a profiteering scheme and has almost nothing to do with health)
Because medical dogma about being fat is 99% wrong except for the 25% of people who can’t get fat no matter what they do! (see the vermont prison study for more on that.) And none of us are them.
I don’t like any processed artificial sweeteners including stevia, but I grow my own plants, and the young leaves are sweet and not - to my tastebuds - at all bitter when used fresh and sparingly. I will even roll a leaf in my palms and drop into my french press to take the bitter edge off my coffee without making it actually sweet.
Personally I think the reason Keto has been so prevalent in “miracle” diet land is because yes, for some people it’s actually that effective. Obviously riding a rocket sled of weight loss isn’t the most common experience - personally half a pound a week is my sedate but satisfactory ride - but it’s happened often enough to give Keto its reputation.
PaulL
(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?)
#40
Something to bear in mind, also, is the fact that the amazing stories of large fat loss usually happen to men—though there are women for whom it happens, too—and invariably, the truly startling losses occurred in people who had a lot to lose. And as I like to say, the first 100 lbs. can come off quite quickly, but the last 10 take a long time, even for the people who lost a lot quickly at first.
Also, I have to admit, it is true that you’d never believe, to look at some of us, our story of just how much we’ve lost, because we are still carrying around quite a bit of extra fat. And I wouldn’t blame you for thinking that. There is one forum member, who has an amazing experience of using keto to treat his medical conditions; he weighs considerably more than I do, but he has also lost about double (at least) the amount of fat I’ve lost on keto. I’ve had to learn not to assume that people who are overweight aren’t doing keto—I have to turn that thought around and ask myself how much they might have lost already, that doesn’t show!
