Diabetes brought me here

[Calendyr]

Yes it is called Gluconeogenesis. It’s the process in which the body creates the glucose it needs to fonction if not enough is present. This will not spike your blood glucose levels to abnormal levels.

Also if you read long enough here, it is talked about on many threads,

Something I recently learned was the liver creates its own sugar. From what I’ve read it dumps this back into the body while you’re sleeping. What amazes me is what I see on the several diabetes websites I’ve been to. All of them talked about this “sunrise sugar” problem. It has various names, but to me it looks like the liver doing its job. Not one of those websites even discuss it.

To be honest, I think a great deal of those websites are not set up to help people with diabetes, but instead to sucker in as many people as possible to collect personal information. Sure, they look legit, but looks can be deceiving. You can usually tell because there is no central control on the forums. Basically anything goes, and you dont see lock outs happening or spammers getting blocked. Its basically just the users out for themselves and helping each other without leadership of some kind. Leadership as in someone who interrupts a thread that goes sideways, and gets some real science into it. Like the previous mentioned liver sugar production. Which should have been a prominent response on those other sites, but no one cared/dared to do any research.

[Calendyr]

This is not universal though. When I told my doctor and my Diabetes specialist I went on a Keto diet, they did not object at all. The only thing both warned me about was trying to loose weight too fast. This is a myth in the medical profession so I did not argue with them. Anyway I am not loosing weight fast enough, I think I am putting on muscle weight almost as fast as I am loosing fat so my numbers are very slowly coming down (13 pounds in 6 weeks).

Robert, given the opposition of many in the medical profession to ketogenic eating, in your shoes, I would just tell them that I had “cleaned up” my diet. That’s generally what I tell people who are curious about my somewhat unorthodox food choices. Let them think what they want about what exactly it means. If your doc wonders how you improved your test scores, you aren’t obliged to tell him details. If he knows you’ve cut down on sodas and sugary treats, he’ll probably be very happy as everyone is against those kind of “foods”; he’ll understand why he’ll have to adjust your meds. Why bother mentioning you’ve got rid of the other kind of carbs as well? It only starts an argument.

[Capnbob]

What amazes me is what I see on the several diabetes websites I’ve been to. All of them talked about this “sunrise sugar” problem. It has various names, but to me it looks like the liver doing its job. Not one of those websites even discuss it.

To be honest, I think a great deal of those websites are not set up to help people with diabetes, but instead to sucker in as many people as possible to collect personal information.

I went to one of the big authoritative Diabetes websites and the forums were a bit old tech and people had signatures attached to their profiles that added to the bottom of each post. I am a member of a similar forum for Apple users from way back with a similar forum tech. There, people list their often enormous collections of Apple equipment with pride. On the diabetes forum, prominent members seem to list their medications, doses and surgeries (amputations etc.) with similar martyr-ish pride. It was creepy and I got the hell out of there.

[Robert_Johnson]

LMAO… Yes, yes, yes, I too was an Apple user from waaaaay back. When the Apple IIe was its flagship product. I even started an Apple Users Group in the mid 1980’s called NFUG “Newtons Fruit Users Group”. Its still around, I think, and it has changed with the times. Last time I saw reference to it, it of course was all Mac oriented.

Cheers,
Bob. (gave up tag lines before it was cool to stop doing it)
“When you have excluded the impossible, what remains,
no matter how improbable, must be the truth” – Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
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Apple IIe, self upgraded to IIgs, home made RGB cable, Transwarp GS card,
Phasor sound card, Checkmate 160 column card, Vulcan 100 MB Hard drive, 1.5 MB ram

Leaving the bleeding edge of technology in my dust

[Wink]

Doug, have your doc check your kidneys, I too was on metmorfin of 500 mg twice a day, then I developed kidneys issues. Doc told me off metmorfin completely, I am now on insulin, BS levels are dropping slowly, I hope to one day get back to normal with this keto diet. OBTW yes I am a type 2 diabetic. I wish you well my friend, hopefully one day you too can throw the meds out completely. Larry

[OldDoug]

Thanks, Larry. I’m due for a round of blood tests that include kidney function, so we’ll see. In principle I agree - it’s best to get off all medication if one can. Sigh… - I guess this argues for being more strict with myself to speed up weight loss and improvement in insulin resistance.

[Robert_Johnson]

And now it’s been one year to the day! Diabetes free for over 8 months. Still hovering about 190 pounds. Sure beats 245 pounds.

Keto Vitae!