Cgm

(Central Florida Bob ) #21

Thanks for that, Bob! I’ve tested myself on a handful of foods. Always by finger pricking because of the practical difficulties of getting a CGM here in the states. I don’t think I’ve ever tested 15 minutes after a challenge, usually every 30 minutes until it seems to be back where it started. Never seen one take more than 90 minutes. The problem is the coarseness of the data.

Do you find that liquid foods affect you faster and you get over them faster? That sounds like a possible explanation for the soup. Things in solution hit faster than things you have to digest for a while.

By that thinking, soda would be a faster BG hit than a fruit.

(Bob M) #22

Good points, and I assume what you say is true. I only really had soup (not made by me) one time in the year while I had my CGM, though. I really only have things like that around holidays, so only Thanksgiving and Christmas, and really only Thanksgiving (as we had a sushi night before Thanksgiving, but on Christmas eve, we don’t). While others ate sushi, I had soup, salad, sashimi (fish only).

Maybe on vacation, but I can’t remember wearing my CGM then. (Possibly because I didn’t want people to see it on my arm while on the beach?)

The worst blood sugar I got – and this I did have a few times while I had the CGM – was…pizza. My blood sugar went high and stayed high for a long time. Not sure why, though I think the way you eat pizza is partly a factor (you eat one piece, take a break, eat another, break,…). And pizza itself has to contribute too.

#23

101 isn’t bad at all. I show ~110 most mornings on my pin prick meter although my meter could be a few points high. I just had bloodwork last week and they got 104. My AIC was 5.1. That is after about 16 months of keto.

I saw a podcast where Thomas Delauer was going over his bloodwork. I think his fasting BG was 102 and he is about as fit as they come. He chalks it up to this notion of adaptive glucose sparing.

I wanted to ask my doctor for a CGM but he is very stingy for some reason. He wouldn’t order a fasting insulin test either - he says they are too noisy to be helpful which could be true.

So far I never seem to be fast enough with my testing to catch any post meal spikes in BG but I don’t eat any carby stuff. When I do measure post-meals it is usually about an hour later and my BG is lower than pre-meal levels.

(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #24

All you USA residents who live within a reasonable drive to the Canadian border just come on up, head for the nearest drug store and buy a FreeStyle Libre and sensors. The reader will cost you about $50 and each sensor about $99. Canadian. No prescription, no questions. They’re kept behind the counter so have to ask. But otherwise no problemo.

(Bob M) #25

Insulin can be noisy, but many keto doctors suggest getting it. I’ve had anywhere from “<3.0” uIU/mL when fasting 4.5 days to 33.0, a 10 times difference. But mine are normally between 8-10, which is supposedly a bit high.

(Bob M) #26

That’s about $160/month US . They really need to bring that down. As in at least by 1/4 if not by 1/8th. I’m hoping for the version in the watch from Apple or Samsung. Rumored to be happening, but not until next year.

#27

Here in Europe we can order the freelibre sensor and reader for 59,9€ each without prescription. The reader seems to be replaceable by an app on the phone. Not sure what the advantage of the reader is ? Maybe if your phone is not compatible you need one, like my mom for example who doesnt own a smartphone…
A sensor only lasts 14 days, so it adds up to about 120€ for a month, if you can use the phone instead of the reader. Still not cheap. I just got a batch of test strips for the fingerpricks, plan to use those up first and meanwhile I have time to think about a CGM… maybe it is worth it in the end, I will not need it forever I guess. Just have to pick a good moment to start, maybe after our vacation. :sunglasses:
Wow, that erythritol story alarmed me, so today I checked if I too spiked on it. 20 grams didn’t do much (i kept hovering in the 70s) so I guess I am safe on that. Not that I use it a lot, but now I am at least reassured it will be no problem.
I always start measuring 15 minutes after the first ‘bite’, so I think I don’t miss spikes.

(Bob M) #28

Me too. I might have to get some strips to test. Although I don’t often have erythritol, I do use it sometimes.

#29

Hmm. I’ve just started using some erythritol and more stevia. Since I’ve started cycling 45min daily I am getting cravings for sweets but some zero cal sweetener in my beverage seems to calm that. There have been two stories about erythritol on here recently so I might need to check. It does almost seem too good to be true in a way (apart from the GI issues)

(Keto Man) #30

Is there a way I can get a CGM with out prescription? I am not diabetic and my doctor wont prescribe one but want to get one for diet and health reasons to understand how my body responds to various foods.

(Ohio ) #31

I’d like to throw something out here: I think CGMs tech will actually start humanity towards a ketogenic lifestyle.

We can now get active feedback on what we ingested. I think diabetics will naturally gravitate towards ketogenic lifestyles, unknowingly.

Just a thought.

(Germaine M Schweibinz) #32

Hello KETO MAN, I think that is the future but we are not there yet. GMS

(GINA ) #33

There are ‘services’ that will send you a CGM as part of a larger program of analyzing your diet and lifestyle. They seem to cost way more than just getting the CGM, but it will get you one.