Carbing up is never as fun or good as it seems

#41

My thoughts exactly when i had nearly a month break from ketosis and i was destroying fast food, processed food and all kinds of straight up garbage trash junk that tastes good for 5 seconds and makes u want it again.

I would tell myself i feel like an addict eating so much sugar at once and still wanting more after satiety, even tho its all very conscious choice for me and i dont have issues with self control, but seeing the contrast and drug perspective after sucha long time is very interesting. Kind of reminds me of Hopkins line in Silence of the lambs when he tells the FBI Agent that “You looked but did not see, you heard but did not listen.”

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #42

I left a ten-year job on Sunday, and the good folks of the parish gave me a cake after church. As I was cutting it, I noticed it was very similar to my grandmother’s Busy Day Cake recipe (white cake with white sugar frosting), which she used to make as an occasional treat for us (she did a lot of the cooking to take some of the burden off Mom, who worked). Given the sentiment involved, I caved in to my addiction and had a piece. I could try to justify it, but why bother? That sort of thing is by no means safe for me to be around, and I should have applied some of my sobriety techniques to avoiding eating any of the cake at all, but I did what I did.

My goodness, was that stuff sweet! I actually couldn’t finish my piece, which was on the small side for my carb-burning days, and had to throw half of it out (back in the day, I’d have polished off that piece and had two or three more). I’ve been fortunate not to be getting very hungry lately, and the sensation of satiety does seem to have something of a protective effect against bingeing. Thanks be to God for that much, at least.

(Cancer Fighting Ketovore :)) #43

I’m not planning on any sort of “carb up” days, at least not intentional ones. Will I maybe have a few french fries if my kids are eating them? Maybe. I’m certainly not going to go out of my way to eat regular pizza. I do have occasional bites of the kids treats, but only a small bite. But, keeping sugar low is my priority.

(SVGuss) #44

I agree. You’ve had your carb plate and then you think “what was the point of it?” Just let carb craving go away. In the beginning, it’s next to impossible, and it’s fine, but as you go on you just know it’s working bad on your body. It’s like stepping into dog shit volunteeringly :slight_smile: Especially if you have problems with high blood sugar.

(Rebecca ) #45

I am fairly new to Ketogenic Eating…16 weeks. I read on here frequently and have learned a lot. Thanks for your knowledge and willingness to share it.
I have experienced so much positive healing in these 16 weeks; cravings are gone, I have a 25 lb weight loss so far, change in body composition, better sleep, better moid, a lot more energy and stamina and reversing of a thyroid disease that I have dealt with since my teen years (I am nearly 58 now).
I spent a lot of my life around alcoholism and wittnessed horrible behaviors and experienced the heartache that can come with it. I never have and never will touch the stuff.
I have come to learn that sugar and/or most carbohydrates cause addictive behaviors in myself and I am thankful to be rid of them. My body is at peace now and I know what it is to “feel good”!
I personally can’t imagine myself loading up on carbohydrates ever again…but I also respect what anyone else chooses to do.
Thank you for letting me speak!

(Chris) #46

Sometimes people can react to the phytochemicals in plants and this can cause digestion issues. For example, my wife has found that after removing salads and then adding them back in they definitely causing abdominal pain.

For me, things like coconut flour, even in small amounts can be very very hard on my gut.

You might try carnivore for a little to eliminate the plants and then add back in slowly to see what affects you.

Good luck!

(Judith) #47

If you told them that sugar/carbs make you feel ill wouldn’t’ they accept that??

(Chris Kornelsen) #48

I tried it for a week and it didnt help much. Maybe I need to do it longrr

(Chris) #49

Were you were ‘strict’ carnivore - that is meat, salt and water? You need to drop everything, even spices (some people react to very little amounts of things).

Doing this is extremely anti-inflammatory. Many of your aches and pains should feel better (or improving noticeably). Your digestion on straight meat should be pretty flawless. It’s the veggies and fibre that cause those issues.

The only issue might be low energy.

Even going from keto to carnivore requires and adaptation period which can be very hard (It was for me). I was mainly ok in a month or so, but it took three months before I felt I could exercise well again and about six months to feel back to normal.

I hope you find a fix for your health. I spent years trying to find what worked for me.

Good luck.

#50

Carbing up and body building is a different goal to reducing carbs to live a low insulin lifestyle and treat type 2 diabetes.

It’s interesting to wonder at why people do things. Curiosity about curiosity.

Prof Ben Bikman questions the myth about weight training and needing carb ups: