Canned Sardines in vegetable oil - no go?

#21

Here’s my current ‘stash’ of tinned fish…mackerel, sardines and red salmon.
Sardines are only £0.40 per tin, mackerel £0.80 per tin, and the red salmon is £3.00 per tin.
The dog and I love them, have them every other day. I don’t really bother with tuna…much rather have the tinned salmon mixed up with spring onion, grated cheddar and mayonnaise.
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#22

So what I mean is, as others have intimated…there are plenty of other options that don’t break keto, or indeed use polyunsaturated seed oils.

(Bob M) #23

Is Tesco a UK thing? That’s an impressive line of fish.

(Though I hate to bring this up…but fish oil is polyunsaturated fats. Whether that’s bad or good is a tough issue, though.)

#24

Tesco, Sainsburys, Morrisons, Waitrose, and Asda are the main players in UK, (and parts of Europe and beyond). I think Asda was once connected with Walmart, but I don’t keep up with such inconsequential nonsense.

Tesco (a UK store) has a great store near me with lots of variety.
I could go to Lidl stores (German budget stores), and I sometimes do, but that can be a lottery.

Theres much more at Tesco in the line of fish tins than I displayed…and no, I’m not an employee or advocate; just telling the truth. I nip in and out and know where the things I want are.
It could be any supermarket I guess, but this is local to me. :man_shrugging:

#25

I buy freshly caught sardines, or tinned sardines in water. There is an olive farm nearby and they make good, fresh, seasonal 100% olive oil. They even make ‘early’, ‘mid-season’, and ‘late-picked’ oils within a season. I put the ‘clean’ sardines in the local olive oil. Delicious. Also feed the same to my Labrador. Sardines are economical protein.

I do see in the canned sardines in the supermarket many are labelled “olive oil blend” where the oil is mainly polyunsaturated processed seed oils. Here it’s canola oil, or rape seed oil as it is called in the UK. I prefer to avoid the processed seed oils, as that is the stage of knowledge I’m at with ketogenic eating.

I also taste my olive oil before purchase, like old style wine tasting, and buy the nicest tasting one without any hints of rancid oxidation. Not sure if I’m an outlier with doing that? It’s tempting on visiting friends or family cooking me dinner with olive oil to ninja 🥷 into their kitchen to sniff and taste their olive oil. That’s normal to do, right?

#26

I am Carnivore into year 5 now and sometimes I eat them in oil.
I don’t care, but I prefer water packed. But if my fav brand is not on the shelf and I see some good ones I like packed in olive oil or whatever oil, yup I buy and eat. I ain’t dead yet and it suits me and I do well eating them. So for me, if I do fine after draining off that oil, giving a tad of a wipe to the sardines to get off a tad more oil, I am basically eating so little oil and I enjoy them, so yea, I am super great with it.

do you. what you feel suits you. you do great on it, like the taste and more have at it. you feel off eating them in oil, dump.

personal call on that one for each of us.

#27

LOL!
Yes, perfectly natural behaviour!

Well done sir.

:slight_smile:

#28

I like them in mustard. I’m a weirdo though…

#29

a ton of people do :wink: and all I can say is enjoy.
EWWWwww for me :rofl:

(Joey) #30

It is perfectly normal to sneak into other people’s kitchens to sniff and taste their olive oil. Soldier on! :+1:

(Gabe “No Dogma, Only Science Please!” ) #31

Eric Westman’s answer has always been not to worry too much about it; however, I’m of the view that the scholars and physicians that have pointed out the dangers of “vegetable oils” are right.

Recently the supermarket delivered me some canned fish in an “olive oil blend” – which included some 30 or 40% canola oil. Ew.

I think vegetable oils are as bad as sugar. They are industrial chemicals unfit for human consumption. Strongly avoid.

(Robert) #32

Look into vegetable seed oils. They may be worse than sugar as far as damage to your health. No one should be eating any of them.

(Bob M) #33

I’m probably not a person to be telling to look into seed oils (having avoided seed oils myself for years, and eaten The Croissant Diet to attempt to “prove” that saturated fat causes satiation). But I am with you on avoiding seed oils. The extent to which you have to do this, though, is suspect.

For instance, if you go over to the Saturated Fat part of Reddit, you’ll see people saying that eggs shouldn’t be eaten because a lot of them have relatively high PUFA, but the main idea for these people is that PUFA > a small amount of calories = weight gain. The idea being that linoleic acid causes your fat cells to become insulin sensitive, thereby driving you to overeat.

I can pretty much guarantee that you can get the highest PUFA eggs you can find, and eat nothing but those eggs, and you will NOT gain weight. This is where the Protons theory fails: it does not consider satiety to be caused by anything other than PUFAs or saturated fat. And even crappy eggs have a ton of nutrition.

Now, if you want to limit eggs because we already get too many PUFAs, or PUFAs are easily oxidized, etc., I can see that.

(KCKO, KCFO 🥥) #34

My Costco has them from time to time in water, I think they are Wild Planet like the tuna I get there. Unfortunately they don’t have the water packed ones all the time. But I usually use them with tuna for my seafood salads.