I want a poster with a giant USDA food pyramid in the middle of it and THAT quote under it.
Can we trust dietitians?
mcebis
(mcebis)
#22
It is one of the reasons I am writing my blog. It is for the disbelievers. The people who need help but a hard o convince.
mcebis
(mcebis)
#23
Thanks Donna. That is where the blog is headed. In the next post we should get there. Have to take it slowly even though from comments in this forum, most people are already there. My blog is aimed at the people who need help but are not there yet.
Jacquie
(Jacquie)
#24
And then you have the āthin pre-diabeticā dietician, who has come as far as low carb but canāt quite cross over to keto yet, Franziska Spritzler. Hereās a link to her story.
trekkin1
(Jo Lo)
#25
I once dated a Registered Dietician, who, as it turned out had quite an eating disorder. Sometimes people with a problem are drawn to that field, only to find that their problem does not change.
KetoKate
#26
I think we are starting to see a difference; doctors seem to be more open-minded when presented with the science, in my experience.
People like @acrunchyfrog, @AnnaLeeMI and co have given me faith. Whether theyāre studying or practicing medicine in its many forms or have the ability to significantly influence the industry, theyāre the ones who will be able to make a big difference to the lives of many. Keto may be grass-roots now, but the future looks bright as far as Iām concerned, especially when I know itās professionals like these guys who have our backs.
bokkiedog
(Nick)
#27
Be careful of confirmation bias. Yes, the doctors we bust a gut to educate in our small circle, the dieticians who even dare to be in our orbit, might be receptive. But trust me: I have enough wide-range contact with the medical and dietary establishment to tell you that things are not getting better. If anything, theyāre getting worse. Doctors and dieticians are becoming so defensive of what they call āDoctor Googleā that theyāre doubling-down on their rejection of any thoughts not fed to them from the Official Channels.
This is not to say that things will not get better. But thereāll have to be a cataclysmic crisis first: the bankrupting of a nationās health system, for example, or a successful class-action against one of the crooked dietician societies etc, to catalyse this.
gardengirlkp
(Karen Parrott)
#28
Itās my understanding that Franziska does recommend Keo to some of her clients. Two people that I know IRL have gotten great results from her. One was probably life saving.
I met her in person at Lowcarb USA 2016, along with Nicole Racine. Both seemed to be keto friendly. Many of the lecture topics were on keto.
Iām happy to have a person that I can recommend my friends to go and see that has a deep understanding of LCHF/Keto.
KetoKate
#29
What confirmation bias? Iāve recently had conversations with a couple of GPās and while they were skeptical, they were interested in knowing more and asked me to point them in the direction of some articles on Keto. Iāve also had recent conversations with doctors and dietitians who were in no way open minded to anything and adamantly stuck to the low fat, low cal equals good health mantra.
If however, Iād had the same conversations 5 years ago, all of them would have shouted me down instead of just a few. Do I think the tide has turned, no. Do I think it will turn in the near future? No again (though it doesnāt stop me from being hopeful). But Iām also not going to tar them all with the same brush, nor will it stop me from having an informed conversation when met with opposition. So I may not be able to convince them in the end, with or without the science, but itās certainly a worthwhile conversation nonetheless.
Groversaurus
(David)
#31
Get the āexpertsā to review your keto food diary. LOL.
Iām going to keep a food diary, and when I go back for my another health check next year, Iām going to take in a list of everything I have eaten. Iāll do a summary to show how much butter, meat, and fatty foods Iāve been eating, just to make it worse.
mwuahahahaha.
gardengirlkp
(Karen Parrott)
#33
Hereās what I tell myself about my doc, twitter dietitians from Canada who insist that Labor Day in the US requires some cookies and sugar and thatās okay, (WHUT?) and the general public that mostly gets it but sometimes freaks
I taught myself this, just for my keeping calm and ketoing onā¦
"Iām sitting here waiting on Keto/LCHF/Weight Maintenance Island. Sipping a cool class of water, collecting eggs from my chickens and coconuts from the tree, and gathering some lemon grass for my chicken stock.
I know that the cruise ship bringing the masses hasnāt shown up yet, but when it does, some of them will be very interested to know how I live, work and play and stay well. The rest will go back to smoking, eating the SAD, food addiction, over drinking, over medicated, not sleeping or relaxing enough.
Some will stay and be my new friends on Keto/LCHF/Weight Maintenance Island, and that will be more fun for all of us who stay. Some will get back on the cruise ship and sail back off to the SAD."
I can go through that senario in my head, quickly and be sane. In early 2012, very few people were on board with even a Paleo template, now the masses are starting to arrive. Iām excited. 
justme
(Linda Culbreth)
#37
What scares me is there are over 19,000 diabetes educators in the USA.Most were trained all the same way. Most also follow a high carb, moderate protein, and very low - or no fat teachings. Notice where the materials they pass out come from. All you have to do is follow the money and you will see where the training comes from. The two diabetes educators nearly died when I said I put cream in my hot coca (water, stevia, dry coco, and cream). I got a pretty significant reaming out for that one! Believe me, my mouth was sealed with duck tape the rest of that class and only other one I attended. I admit to being a diabetes class dropout. Keto is not a dirty word!