Bother with Macros on OMAD?

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#21

But if we both fell off the wagon, you would share it… right??
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#22

With easy IF and OMAD and/or a short eating window of an hour, it would indicate you’re very well fat-adapted, in which case there is the argument that you can handle more than the induction period of 20 gms net carbs if you want - up to 50 or more. Tonight I had a bit of wine and bittersweet chocolate, after a meal with ancient einkorn grain mini-crackers and it came in around 30 grams easy-peasy. But I wouldn’t say I felt 100% fat adapted till month 6 keto, which is when I also started to have a ton more general adaptability. My recomp progress is pretty consistent validation that it’s working well for me.

Dr. Fung indicates that it’s more important when one eats rather than what exactly, related to the insulin surges - and a small eating windo/1-2 meals a day IF and also EF is creating amazing results w/ his obese diabetic patients!

There is also the argument that for many (but not all) females, IF with two meals a day actually works better for the cortisol and nervous system. Most days I do IF and try to do two meals, but when I get absorbed in work and am not overly stressed, OMAD is what happens naturally and that’s fine! It’s great to feel less stressed about macros too!

For those of us aiming for fat-burning, the reduction of fat intake so that the body can tap its own stores is an interesting subject. I start my day with a fatty coffee (2 tblsp coconut oil plus cream), but I don’t add extra fat to my dinner plate and I watch the cheese servings when I eat it - because I want to burn my own extra fat a bit more.

I do think that IF and yearly longer fasts are key to longevity - way more than macros at a certain point of reasonable nourishment. And, when combined with a well-formulated traditional very low carb & real foods way of eating is quite a powerful combo. Have been recently enjoying re-reading Romanian keto researcher Cristi Vlad’s book Periodic Fasting: Repair your DNA, Grow Younger, and Learn to Appreciate your Food it covers lots of fascinating historical stuff on apparently well-aged people who tended to fast pretty regularly, like Seneca, Grandma Moses, Luigi Cornaro, Upton Sinclair etc.

#23

Wow~ a 14000 kcal feast? That’s some “Gusto!” Impressive, and must be tasty - as likewise is… satiety, amazingly!

I used to have a big stomach and the ability to eat vast buffet meals with pride. But it seems to have shrunk with keto this last 13 months! I definitely seem to have healed my satiety signals via supplementing with Ginger capsules (2-4 a day, usually morning and at dinner). Apparently it has enzyme-precusor compounds that boost the body’s own enzymatic production, and it also reduces cortisol and insulin spiking.

Lots of people have devastated enzyme production and microbiome imbalances - and Ginger has a probiotic and anti-inflammatory power. Glong w/ prebiotics (cooked greens, and very small amounts of refried basmati rice for resistant starch) Ginger has helped me enormously in maximizing the tummy/gut healing. Chemically, gingerol is a relative of capsaicin (chilli) and piperine (black pepper) - and has 14 bio-active compounds which help just about all systems of the body (thus is called a superfood, etc).

(Jane) #24

I keep meaning to ask you @SlowBurnMary about ginger. I bought some and stupidly took some while I was fasting and paid the price for it.

To make matters worse… I am trying to heal a stomach ulcer with fasting and autophagy and I sure didn’t help matters any.

How do you recommend I take the ginger? With a meal? Or wait until my ulcer is healed? I was taking Nexium twice a day and now down to one every 2 days so it is getting better.

#25

Hmmm, well… medication contraindications are not my area of expertise. But I do know that Ginger is a powerful anti-inflammatory NSAID on par with prescription strength Ibuprofin, and is contraindicated to go along with aspirin for example.

I try to take it with meals and a bit of liquid, the food helps it move down. Otherwise, you really have to drink 8 oz of water to be sure to wash it down right.

As far as ulcers and such, a general protocol in eastern medicine would involve cooling your inflammation topically first (via chewing a 1/2-1 teaspoon raw Fennel seeds after each meal or whenever you have reflux or pain), and backing that up with some Ginger (as to how much, prob just a gram or less per day). Being that ulcers can be related to stress/cortisol and enzyme derangement, Ginger may well be a good friend for you along with ketogenic foods!

I once had a friend with terrible GERD and a Nexxium prescription who successfully reduced his Nexxium to zero by incorporating the Fennel chewing routine - along with eliminating sodas, and stopping drinking iced beverages at meals. Some folks don’t like Fennel though, in which case other sweet-ish herbs like Coriander seeds or Cinnamon powder are sometimes used. :sparkles: