Body weight scale bashing. Visceral fat measurement without MRI as a health biomarker

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#1

We know about carb addiction hangovers that follow us into this Low Carb Healthy Fats way-of-eating (WOE). One of those is that we bring body weight scales with us. There are plenty of topics about the benefits and dangers of body weight scales, or ‘bathroom scales’, in these forums.

"Take your scales and give them to your most hated enemy." Old keto proverb.

"Shed your scales and let’s get started." Misquoted lyric from Australian rock band aptly named, Hunters and Collectors. Song: Throw Your Arms Around Me… (and see if they reach).

My bias, from experience, is against using body weight scale measurement as a biomarker or (de)motivational tool. I will weigh myself, but only at the doctor’s office for recording on a physical examination record.

Many low-carb coaches and practitioners use Waist to Height ratio as a biomarker measurement. Tummy: Tallness = < 0.5? The measurement around your belly at the level of the navel should be less than your height.

Long term low carbers use ‘clothes fit’, and many non-scale victories (NSVs) are spoken about in these terms.

But how do you tell if you are losing subcutaneous fat, or visceral fat that wraps your abdominal organs and has many health consequences?

Standing and measuring around your belly results in a measurement that is a mix of subcutaneous and visceral fat.

I like the bio-marker measurement that you can do at home without the need for magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) that will tell you within the first month of starting a low carb eating plan, whether you are improving your health.

To measure and record the bio-marker, you need to lie down.

Let Dr. Sean O’Mara explain (the video is book-marked to take you straight to the key point in the presentation)


Something deeper: The discussion is about reducing visceral fat and how low-carb eating can achieve that. There are other anatomical factors to consider. The mesentery and omentum inside our bellies has fat that occurs in the folded sheets of tissues and broad ligament that holds our ropes of guts in place and supplies a scaffold for blood vessels, nerves, and lymphatic drainage. It makes up a lot of the ‘visceral fat’ (as seen in the MRI images). We can also recall information that the intestine is the largest immune organ in the body. If the gut is inflamed, the omentum swells in response with cells and inflammation fluids. If we eat a cleaner, low-inflammatory, low carb ketogenic diet, we reduce inflammation. That inflammation reduction will reduce the swollen size of the omentum and its reactive fat. So, here is my surmise, is that some abdominal visceral fat reduction, is from reduced inflammation of the gut supporting tissues. Recording a thought. It is likely old news to the keto veterans.


Ferocious Fix February - Carnivore Challenge (Fit it In - Fit in It! ) Feb 2022
#2

Biomarkers Quiz. - Questions to ask your self as your own primary health coach.

  1. Can you squat down?
  2. Can you run sprint for 30 feet/ 10m? (How far?) Imagine being chased.
  3. Can you get up from sitting on the ground without using your hands?
  4. How long can you stand on each foot with your eyes closed?
  5. Does the iris of your eye have darker pigment (limbal ring)?
  6. How quickly do your fingers pucker when you are in the bath/ shower/ sauna?
  7. Do you have visible pulses in your wrists?
  8. Note how long it takes you to start sweating when you are warm.
  9. Note how long it takes between drinking a large glass of water and having to pee.
  10. When you have to poo, how long do you sit or squat before you evacuate?
  11. What colour is your tongue?
  12. Do you have skin tags?
  13. Do you get swollen feet and ankles?
  14. What colour is your hair?
  15. How dense is your hair?
  16. How easily do you sunburn?
  17. Do you look younger in your face photos since starting low carb eating? (Check your social selfies)
  18. What is your waist to height ratio?
  19. How itchy do you get after bug/ mosquito bites?
  20. Do you have itchy or inflamed skin blemishes?
  21. Do you have an easy walking gait with no lameness?
  22. Do you have good muscle tone, or floppy bits?
  23. Do you get cold after eating a meal?
  24. Do you blush?
  25. Do you have attractive red coloured lips?

The plan would be to test these at the start of a healthier eating plan and check them weekly. Face photos weekly.

Do people do this?

More info:


Ferocious Fix February - Carnivore Challenge (Fit it In - Fit in It! ) Feb 2022
(Bacon is a many-splendoured thing) #3

This is an easy goal to reach. I am currently 69 inches tall, down from 71 (for various reasons). At no point, even at my very fattest, did my waist measurement ever exceed 42 inches. If my waist had ever reached 69 inches, I think I’d have been one of those guys in the newspaper, where you say, “Oh, nice picture of a guy sitting on a couch. Oh, wait—he’s the couch!”

Seriously, though, I’m wondering if the goal shouldn’t be to have a waist circumference less than half one’s height. That would make more sense.

One thing that Dr. Robert Lustig showed in a small experiment on some of his paediatric obesity cases was that visceral fat, particularly in the liver, starts to go away practically immediately, once sugar is eliminated from the diet (he mentions this experiment in his fructose lecture). Just replacing sucrose with starch is enough to be quite beneficial (though, of course, eliminating the starch as well adds to the benefit).

I was also reading just the other day that the pancreas can become loaded with fat, too, which interferes with glucagon and insulin production. I can’t imagine that being anything but damaging to our metabolism.


#4

Yes. Edited. Thanks Paul.


(Bob M) #5

Gotta say that after 9 years keto/low carb, and assiduously avoiding as many PUFAs as possible for many years, I STILL burn every summer. At least the last 4 summers in a row, I’ve been burnt.

That’s possibly because I’m going from zero sun to multiple hours, but I still burn.

As for sweating, I still sweat, even when working out in my basement at 60F or so. Do I sweat less than I used to? Maybe. It’s hard to know.


(Robin) #6

What a great list!!
I can check most of those except for ones involving knees (structural damage). That just made my day. Thanks!


(Bob M) #7

I’ll never have that. I am 5’ 8" (maybe less now that I’m older), which is 68 inches. That’s a waist size of 34 inches. I don’t know if I’ve ever had that waist size, even when I was in my teens/early 20s and somewhat ripped. Maybe?

Now, I can wear some of my size 34 inch waist pants, but that’s not really my waist size.


(Allie) #8

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: