Anyone else feeling guilty about passing out candy for Halloween?


(Ken) #21

I always stock up on after Halloween candy sales. There’s nothing wrong with using the candy for periodic carb intake.

Candy is not Evil, it’s just nutrients. You just have to understand the proper metabolic context when consuming it.

I enjoy giving it out to kids on Halloween, it’s a big day for them. No need to have nutty guilt about it.


(Todd Allen) #22

Depends on the candy. I’d watch out for hydrogenated vegetable oils which probably are more toxic than the sugars. A quality dark chocolate made with cocoa butter is a more healthy indulgence. If you aren’t consuming large quantities the cost difference vs sale candy shouldn’t be a major factor.

The other issue is if you use cheap candy as your periodic carb intake you are displacing the opportunity to use those carbs for healthier options.


(KetoQ) #23

Oddly enough, I reconnected with an old work colleague yesterday, who left the corporate rat race a few years ago to pursue her dream … opening up a chocolate shop. She’s been at it for about seven years now.

I suggested to her to make keto friendly chocolate covered bacon or jerky. She replied that she has lots of customers on keto that buy her “91% dark chocolate.”

But other than that, I’m fine with giving the kiddies candy. I got fat more because of beer and pizza rather than Halloween time Hershey bars.


(Ken) #24

Thanks for your opinion, I’ll stick to the same things I’ve done for over 15 years.

Occasionally consuming things that some people consider unhealthy really doesn’t matter much as far as impacting a long term pattern.


(Todd Allen) #25

Do as you please for yourself, I was more concerned about the thought that if your comment “nothing wrong with using the candy for periodic carb intake” went unchallenged others might accept the idea and do themselves unwitting harm. There’s actually a lot wrong with it though there’s truth to the adage “the dose makes the poison”. Stocking up on it during sales might be penny foolish.


(Brian) #26

No one will be trick-or-treating way out here in the stix. Plus, they wouldn’t want our homemade keto goodies anyway as they wouldn’t know they’re safe. I have no plans to buy a bunch of little packages of junk just in case. Sorry kids.


(Nummy) #27

just to the little fat kids whose parents keep feeding it to them all day everyday.
I don’t blame my parents but I think I might have been a little better off it they would have not let me have soo much junk all time.
you could always give out apples, but that could lead to an early snow day of t.p.


(John) #28

I’ll be on a business trip during Halloween so it won’t be an issue for me.


(Ken) #29

You should consider using IMO when dispensing what you consider your Sage Wisdom. Nutty Keto Dogma is bad enough as it is, without getting wrapped up in very small aspects of Nutrition. I’ll reiterate my point, it’s a matter of occasional use within a much broader nutritional pattern.

I don’t think your views are invalid, it’s more of an issue of frequency, as if eating unhealthy things becomes a chronic pattern.


(Todd Allen) #31

IMO you might also clarify what is your opinion versus sage wisdom.


#32

I just cackle with laughter.

If the parents allow their children to eat that rubbish, and are willing to cope with the dental disease, dentist bills, over excited sugar highs, bad sleep and tummy aches, then who am I to tell them what idiots they are…

Yours,
an unconcerned evil doer


(Carl Keller) #33

They should rename Halloween to “National Diabetes Day”. I thought about handing out mini bags of macadamian nuts. They sell half oz bags that end up costing about $1.00 a bag but I can’t really afford to spend $75.00 - $100.00 on Halloweeners… Sigh… maybe I should just not turn on my porch light? I can’t stomach the guilt of passing out sugar to little kids.


(KCKO, KCFO 🥥) #34

We are going with glow bracelets from Amazon this year. A 100 piece bag of them was $12. We tested one and it was still giving off some glow at 8 hrs. You can also make them into necklaces, but it takes more of the connectors and sticks for those. If was have any left overs, they are good for up to 3 yrs. so less shopping next. On the Front Range Halloween can be a nice lovely evening or a wind or snow storm. Sometimes we get @75 kids, others maybe 5 early on then nothing.


(Ken) #35

No doubt you can cite some studies showing that occasionally eating a few pieces of candy, within the context of a lipolytic nutritional pattern, is detrimental to your health.


(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #36

@240lbfatloss I’d be concerned with the toxic effects of the fructose part of the sucrose, not to mention its addictive effects. Leaning about the consequences of loading the liver with fructose was what got me dealing with my sugar addiction and into keto in the first place.

BTW, does anyone know how handing out sugar became a Hallowe’en custom in the first place? It surely can’t be more than 130 years old. All Hallows’ Eve is a lot older than that, with roots in both the old Samhain observances and popular Christian theology about the veneration of the saints. The idea of goblins running free the night before one of the holiest of holy days is rooted in much more primordial urges than the giving and eating of sweet things, surely.


(Brian) #37

Don’t know if this will give a few clues or not…


(Todd Allen) #38

Actually I can’t.

But there is quite a bit of data that various ingredients commonly found in commercial candies such as transfats, HFCS, MSG, preservatives, food colorings, artificial flavors and sweeteners and other additives can have serious health implications. Candies are designed to produce an addictive response and over consumption. Perhaps your health and will power are superior and none of this is an issue for you but many of us here, including myself, are like alcoholics in recovery struggling with health and addiction who don’t benefit from the suggestion that a drink or two is harmless.


(Omar) #39

the OP asking about Halloween. Which is one day in the year.

She did not talk about promoting candy as dietary alternate to whatever those kids eating now. The odds are high that those kids already eating candy otherwise it will be very surprising why their parents allow them to participate in such feast.

almost everyday some one comes here and say they cheated.

those kids they are not even cheating because they are not keto to start with. So I fail to see any wrong doing unless we consider keto some sort of a relegion.


(Todd Allen) #40

I see it as just one small element of a larger problem. Culturally it has become the norm to celebrate with sugary crap. It’s not just Halloween candy but Christmas candy canes and cookies, Easter peeps and chocolate, birthday cake, etc. It isn’t just holidays and celebrations, many of us are exposed to this crap almost daily in work places, schools, gas stations, grocery checkouts, shopping malls and movie theaters. When it makes us sick enough to end up in a hospital we’ll find it there too.


(Bunny) #41

Nothing to do with “ketogenic diet” or it being a “religion” simply eating too much sugar is the problem?

The Real Horror of Halloween? It’s Totally Sugar! (Tips on How to Save Your Kids)

People need to go keto to heal the damage from years of bad dietary advice, you do not need to be in ketosis to be healthy; it is the processed carbs and sugars that need to be avoided or reduced?

Raymond Francis summed it up quite nicely in the year 1998:

”… Feeding refined sugar to a human body is similar to burning high-octane aircraft fuel in an automobile engine. Impressive amounts of energy, but after a while, you damage the engine. Metabolizing refined sugar is quite a challenge, but if forced to, the body will struggle to cope with it. …”

Nutrient Deficiencies:

”… Food is supposed to support life. Sugar will not support the life of humans, animals, insects, or even bacteria. Sugar really isn’t food! Sugar requires specific nutrients in order to metabolize in the body. The refining process strips these nutrients from the source materials like sugar cane, so that metabolism requires the body to deplete itself. The body uses up its reserves, causing deficiencies of various B vitamins, magnesium, chromium, and other nutrients. …” - Raymond Francis 1998

One exception: Hummingbird metabolism unique in burning glucose, fructose equally: Now new research from the University of Toronto Scarborough shows they are equally adept at burning both glucose and fructose, which are the individual components of sugar; a unique trait other vertebrates cannot achieve. “Hummingbirds have an optimal fuel-use strategy that powers their high-energy lifestyle, maximizes fat storage, and minimizes unnecessary weight gain all at the same time,” says Kenneth Welch, assistant professor of biological sciences at UTSC and an expert on hummingbirds.…More